Here is a comment I recently left on MBD’s latest video dealing with the Alpha vs Beta debate, that video can be seen here:
“As you pointed out, the main problem I see with the Alpha vs Beta discussion is the fact that most of the dudes carrying out the judging are using these dark sirens as their measuring tool, however because they(black women) are already broken beyond repair, they cannot be used at all.
Also, how do these dudes explain the fact that a so called “Beta male” who has little to no success with Blackistani women because of their dysfunctional nature all of a sudden can score woman after woman once he decides to cross the fence and deal with non black females?
Female nature is female nature regardless of race, that is what these guys keep on telling us, right? Therefore brothers scoring high in the ranks with non black women presents a serious incongruity to the Alpha vs Beta argument(within black society). Just my 2 pence worth”.
This is my whole point, you cannot use broken/defective tools and instruments to measure anything, therefore why are black women even being brought into the equation when it comes down to determining who is an Alpha male vs who is a Beta male? It’s simple really, black women have factored themselves into the equation, this is why the Alpha vs Beta argument at least within black society is based upon slippery slope logic.
When you look at this topic from a non black societal standpoint, for the majority part the determinations of the Alpha and Beta male are based upon the man’s own characteristics, NOT upon how he is seen in the eyes of women. Now, I don’t completely X out women from the equation as women do indeed respond to the character of a man whether it be in a negative manner or in a positive one, however having women as the main foundation of determining who is an Alpha or a Beta is straight up slippery slope logic and unfortunately I’m seeing a lot of black men within the black manosphere running with this black female illogical foolishness, exalting it as if it is wisdom straight from the heavens.
Firstly, if we are going to factor in any women as a small part of the Alpha/Beta determining equation, then we MUST choose the most functional and feminine women on the planet. As stated before black women cannot be used to measure anything because they for the most part are masculine, dysfunctional and embrace the tenets of feminism which seek to separate them as far as possible from their womanhood.
The argument being put out by various Black Manospherians is as follows, “you couldn’t get the woman you wanted, therefore that makes you a Beta male” or “you’re paying for a woman’s keep, therefore this makes you a Beta male”. Dealing with the first point, what “women” are we really talking about? That’s right, the DYSFUNCTIONAL black witch, this is who these guys are really referring to when they tell you that you couldn’t get the women you wanted, though I wish they’d just come out and say it.
Dealing with the second point, what if the woman you are paying for happens to be your wife or a long-term girlfriend who knows her role and respects your position as a man, does this still make you a Beta male? In the eyes of black women 12 Gauge Mike, Roof Top Simmons, Slim Sauce, Killa Drilla, Trap House Jim and such like are viewed as “Alpha males”, however if we are going to correctly determine who is an Alpha, the above men would NOT fit the description as just like the black witch they are DYSFUNCTIONAL. So called “Alpha males” are NOT dysfunctional individuals, quite the contrary, the true Alpha male holds to a high moral compass, is principled and is all about integrity, efficiency, honesty, accountability and responsibility, just to name a few of his traits.
Being able to dick down 10000 black females DOES NOT make you an Alpha male, again, an Alpha male(in this case an Alpha black male) determination is based upon examining and scrutinising HIS CHARACTERISTICS, VALUES, MORALS AND PRINCIPLES. Stop listening to these black men who choose to fly along with dodgy black female logic labelling you as a Beta male because you weren’t as successful with black women as they were.
Again, just going along with the black female logic of a black man’s success with women being the Alpha/Beta determining factor, what happens to the black male who was somewhat unsuccessful with black women, however having made the decision to date out all of a sudden finds himself overflowing with quality non black females, what label do we now place upon him?
Now, it has been argued by a few that those black men who choose to date out will only be able to get women on their social/economic level. This all depends upon the circles you mingle in and keep, however to be honest in the grand scheme of things this is a moot point which merely aims to distract from the fact that by expanding upon your dating options, you have immediately increased your chances many fold of finding a decent, good-looking, feminine, submissive and cooperative woman. The quality of the woman is more so the focus, not her social/economic status per say.
The principle issue here is dealing with the dilemma of looking for a replacement female in light of the fact that black women as a group are DEFECTIVE BEYOND REPAIR. Black women have negative equity, white women as a group don’t, thus choosing to deal with white women can easily be seen as a serious upgrade.
In terms of attractiveness, a black man for example who was dealing with a black female who is a 5 in looks can easily score a non black female who is a 7 and higher, don’t let anybody fool you into believing that you would only be able to achieve the same level as the black females you may have previously dealt with, this is a crock of nonsense on its face.
On top of this the upgrade in attractiveness becomes even more stupendous when you begin to factor foreign women into the equation. Again, never allow the nay sayers to make you lose sight of the fact that black women as a group are Jurassic Park Level deep in the gutter, thus on average most non black females would be a serious step up from your average black woman.
This is one of the main reasons why I’ve deliberately steered clear of this Alpha/Beta debate, as MBD stated in his video, if we are going to use women as the majority determining base factor, then we can obviously see that these terms are not fixed, they can be moved. A thinking black man is NOT a Beta male because he refuses to deal with dysfunctional black women, this is a defective black female talking point that sadly in 2019 I see many black men running with.
Here is a simple example that I’ve talked about before, if you have a vehicle that is continuously giving you problems, under normal circumstances you would be looked upon as wise, sensible and intelligent to get rid of it and upgrade to a vehicle that won’t give you continued drama. Nobody in their right mind would claim that you are “weak” for wanting to get rid of a problematic vehicle.
Yet when it comes to black women, they themselves as well as a number of ignorant black men continue to propagate the erroneous ideology that those black men who choose to walk away from them(black women) are “weak” because they refuse to deal with the dysfunction, drama, violence, contention, fake hair, fake eye lashes, weave, bleached skin and bastard children that commonly accompany your average garden variety black female.
What particularly bothers me with the pro black simps is why they are so amped up and concerned about what other black men are doing regarding their dating preferences. Since they love black women so much, why don’t they just get themselves one and stop bothering ie attempting to dick police those black men who are simply not interested in dealing with black females?
Black women and a few black men once again have been permitted to inject illogical reasoning into this Alpha/Beta male debate, in the black female’s eyes remember an Alpha male is a bum who has no employment, loiters on the streets all day, has a criminal record and has many women on rotation. Whereas the white/blue-collar working brother who has himself in order, avoids jail and doesn’t have a record of crime is looked upon and labelled as a Beta male.
This is why black women, their advocates/supporters should NOT be involved in Black Manosphere topics, conversations, discussions and debates, additionally this is why I don’t listen to and converse with black women very little because for the most part they have yet to display any intelligence, common sense, logic and reasoning when engaged in constructive dialogue. If to be used at all, the Alpha and Beta titles must be appropriated accordingly and not be principally based upon a negative equity dysfunctional group of women.
Something else to consider is the fact that by the “Alpha Judges” using black women as the fulcrum to determine a man’s masculinity(which is what’s really going on in this debate), this in essence is placing the woman in a position of authority over the man which comes right back to the jacked up, dysfunctional matriarchal system we currently have running black society today. But, I thought these dudes were Alpha males, does anybody else see a major problem here?
Finally, as stated before, personally my main reason for not using the Alpha and Beta male terms nor getting involved in said debate is simply because if founded upon women the determinations are not and cannot be fixed. As MBD stated, a thinking black man who would be considered a so called “Beta male” in one location can easily be looked upon as a so called “Alpha male” in another.
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