The Carbon Dioxide/CO2 Conspiracy – Short Facts!

You have no doubt been and still are being blasted with the message that carbon dioxide/CO2 is detrimental to the earth and that we all need to cut down our carbon footprint in order to save the planet, increase sustainability and reduce global warming/climate change. I am sure that you should all know by now and have at least learnt that when the governments of the world particularly of the west tell us to take part in some sort of earth saving action, that we should recognise it for the scam that it is and do exactly the opposite. So reading the statements that have been made by governments in relation to CO2 we should conclude that CO2 is a harmless gas that is essential for life and that we should really be increasing our carbon footprints in order to save the planet and increase oxygen in our atmosphere.

Take a look at a carbon cycle:

Let us take the top picture. The sun rays are a part of the carbon production process. This carbon is then absorbed by the trees and plants and in turn the plants and trees put out Oxygen( via photosynthesis) which we then breathe in, breathe out carbon/CO2 which returns back to the trees and plants and the whole cycle starts all over again. I’ll just repeat that earlier part of the sentence again. The trees and plants ABSORB the carbon dioxide and through photosynthesis put out OXYGEN which WE BREATHE IN. This is clearly illustrated in the second picture which actually shows carbon being taken in by the tree and the tree putting out oxygen in its place.

This again mainly goes out to the youth out there in the public school systems being continually subjected to the lie that carbon dioxide is bad for the earth and for the adults who have jumped on the global warming/climate change bandwagon without actually thinking this “CO2 is bad” claim through properly. We need carbon, let me just repeat that again, WE NEED CARBON. A question? Exactly where will the plants and trees get the carbon they need to convert into oxygen for us to breathe if we cut down CO2, hmm? Here is a simple equation to remember:

NO CARBON = NO OXYGEN = DEATH(YOU)

Remember also that plants and trees also use carbon to produce their fruits and vegetables, which we in turn consume. So in light of this fact also, here is another simple equation:

NO CARBON  = NO FOOD(FRUITS AND VEGETABLES) = FAMINE = DEATH(YOU)

So where did this notion of cutting down carbon emissions come from? The Club of Rome. What is the Club Of Rome?

The Club Of Rome is a global think tank that deals with a variety of international political issues. Founded in 1968 at David Rockefeller’s estate in Bellagio, Italy, the COR describes itself as “a group of world citizens, sharing a common concern for the future of humanity”.

The Club Of Rome decided from the early 90s to begin a campaign to label carbon dioxide as a pollutant and that it would “fit the bill” lining up with their world population reduction plans. Remember that mankind is the biggest exporter of carbon, we breathe it out everytime we exhale so logically to cut carbon emissions, we will have to be exterminated. But yet according to the Club Of Rome, they consider themselves to “share a common concern for the future of humanity”.

You must understand that statement properly, when they refer to “being concerned for the future of humanity”, they are not talking about being concerned for the future of the common people like you and I, they are concerned for themselves and “their future”, the super rich, global royal political elites of this planet. Beware of any statements that come from so called “Non Governmental Organisations”, they are purposely misleading and designed to draw you in and make you feel like you are a part of the ” great work” towards a “better solution” and a “better world”, meanwhile not letting you know that eliminating you is part of their solution and that you are actually facilitating in your early death not realising that their so called “work” is actually against you and not for you.

This whole carbon dioxide/CO2 conspiracy is a straight scam, it is just another way that governments can tax more out of their people and just another excuse to justify population reduction. There have never been any problems with carbon and its interaction with the planet, yet again straight up lies from governments who only know lies and how to tell them best. So next time somebody approaches you trying to tell you that you need to “reduce your carbon footprint”(see how the Club Of Rome has gotten everyday people to believe the hype by distributing that ridiculous slogan into the mainstream?), explain to them in simple terms that: NO CARBON = NO OXYGEN = NO FOOD = FAMINE = DEATH. Remember, YOU ARE THE ENEMY. The carbon “excuse” is just another avenue open for the global elites of this world to get to YOU. It has never been about carbon, it has always been about the elimination of mankind off this planet by a super rich elite, the ones to be eliminated are YOU.

 

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33 thoughts on “The Carbon Dioxide/CO2 Conspiracy – Short Facts!

  1. So they are literally/trying to tax the air we breathe?!!! These people are incredible!

    I hate the world we live in it makes me so sad. There are not many people I can talk to about things like this, they think I am crazy.

    Keep up with the knowledge.

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    • I have literally had my fill of the so called European man’s nonsense and continual evil. I fully see and understand why the Most High has reserved them to judgement with no mercy. If he isn’t stopped he will completely destroy this planet and turn it into a desolate wilderness. The day that Columbus(JewISH) and his cohorts set sail for the Americas was the beginning of the end for this planet.

      Anyone who believes that they can live in peace with the so called European man is strongly deluded, this man knows nothing about peace, his peace is war. The scriptures confirm this in the first part of Genesis 27:40 which reads:

      27:40 And by thy sword shalt thou live……………

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      • It’s not all about spewing hate for the European man, thats what the elite have programmed you to do by getting the “common people” aka you & me to fight amongst ourselves. The global elite are doing all this and using the brainwashed “European man” as their army, just as they have done for hundreds of years. The elite take over a country with their armys & then make life so bad in their own country that their people want to leave to go to this “Brave new frontier” aka America, Australia, New Zealand etc. When the people arrive they find they’ve been lied to & spend the next few generations building the place into something like “Home”. Then just when the quality of life gets fantastic the elite take greater control of the countries governments & proceed to takeover every facet of their lives with high taxes, movement control, lower the quality of health services etc.

        Its a game, weve all been played and we need to stop hating & start fighting the NWO global elite eugenicist scum.

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      • What you are saying is true but remember that it is still a European global elite that is spearheading a campaign against all people, all that has happened now is the global elite have decided to sacrifice their own people for fears that the common “European man” has mixed his seed with the so called Negro and thus “tainted” their bloodline(according to their words). All the atrocities that are taking place around the world today especially with the invasion of other nations are being conducted by ultra rich European men, this fact cannot be erased. You cannot escape the nature of the European man. Me pointing out his nature and his behaviours is not spewing hatred. It also does not mean that I am infighting because their are many Europeans who are sick and tired of this nonsense and are fighting against the global elite and their system.

        However, you have to understand that there is another level to this agenda, a side that will not be highlighted inside the patriot movement, that the so called Negroes are the real Hebrews, that they are scheduled to be the rulers of the next kingdom on this planet under Christ and that the global elite have decided that they now own the planet and are not going to give it up without a fight. They also are most certainly not going to give up the planet for so called Negroes who they view as nothing more that animals.

        Remember Eugenics was formulated first and foremost for the so called Negro after the so called abolition of slavery to control our numbers for the fear that we might “outnumber” the so called white man if left to our own devices. These facts cannot be ignored. To be honest, as the so called white man and other nations begin to worsen the treatment of the so called black man, their problems will begin to grow more and more out of control.

        If the so called common European man wants real solutions to the turmoil in the world, he has to be prepared to renounce and destroy this system of his forefathers, begin to treat the real Hebrews with respect and stop demonising us through the media, stop trying to impose his ways upon others and stop trying to control others via the various means that his forefathers have imposed upon other nations.

        So, I have no problem standing up together with Europeans and other nations and fighting against the globalists and their skull duggery but understand I am not fighting for his old system as it has never been fair to my people, I want something totally new in place. Again, if you are truly a person of independent though, no topics should be off limits and all topics should be permissible to discuss.

        Again, what you stated about the elite programming people to bash one particular group is true however they also program people to avoid topics that are uncomfortable by getting others to call out certain topics as “hate” or “discriminatory”. I am not afraid to venture into all truth, regardless of how uncomfortable it may be. Avoiding certain topics will not enable those topics to solve themselves.

        As you see I cover a variety of topics on this blog, if I was only gunning down the so called European man then I could understand your concern, however as there is a mixture of different topics being addressed here, I cannot really see you having grounds to accuse me of “spewing hate” as you called it.

        I simply stand for truth and stand against error however it cannot be denied that the majority of the woes that are occurring on this planet right now are the result of the so called European man’s hands. This is in no wise hate, this is simply an observational fact.

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    • Seriously,,, I actually can’t believe you actually believe this crap.

      a) CO2 levels have been on the increase since the industrial era – where in case you didn’t know is when mankind starting pumping large amounts of CO2 into the atmosphere due to the massive energy demand of the emerging superpowers. Since 1958 it has increased from just over 310ppm (parts per million) to nearly 400pmm now. – and in case you’re not with it (which I don’t think you are considering the content of this “article”) global temperature has been increasing year on year since the industrial era – The increases since just the end of the 20th century should be compelling enough In March 2012, Earth’s surface temperature was the 16th warmest on record since 1880. “The month marks the 36th consecutive March and the 325th consecutive month with a global temperature above the 20th century average” [http://co2now.org/] This increase in temperature has had dramatic effects on the worlds weather systems increasing instances of droughts, hurricanes, tornadoes and typhoons, as well as increasing levels of flooding in certain countries.

      I accept your point that plants produce oxygen by using CO2 through photosynthesise – the point you are missing however is that although we need CO2 – we DON’T need an increase of it – it’s not like the world wasn’t able to produce oxygen and food before the year 2000! One of the main sources of oxygen is the amazon rainforest – and in case you didn’t know it’s being cut down at rates that won’t exactly preserve the oxygen you talk of being “taxed” – in 2009 11724 square kilometres were cut down. In just ONE year. Now all the CO2 those trees would have sucked up – replaced by cattle grazing and crop production. Rainforest sucks up more CO2 than deciduous trees would do even if the deciduous trees covered the same area. So imagine the effect on global CO2 levels once they’re removed. And then add to this the effects of cattle production and carbon release from the trees that have been cut down.

      Back to the effects. You’d have to be living under a rock to not know about detrimental effect on the globe; the increasing dramatic weather systems, the receding ice caps, rising sea levels etc etc. Drought (in case you don’t know) affects crop production. Floods affect crop production. And yes. Hurricanes, typhoons and tornadoes affect crop production. As does rising sea levels. Oh yeah. And then there’s the humanitarian effects of these weather systems too. Oh yeah, I forgot. They kill don’t they?

      The polar ice caps store vast amounts of carbon. If they carry on melting not only will global sea levels rise threatening low lying land and islands and their populations, but also the carbon will be released – further accelerating the effects of global warming making it irreversible.

      I really cannot be bothered to counter your points about the “Club of Rome” but just think about this. Who has more to lose from governments attempting to reverse rising CO2 levels: The common man, or the multi-billion carbon fuel industry and the profiteering b*****ds that support them. MPs included. *end rant*

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      • Ok Carbon Tasche, lets dance. Firstly, let us deal with the Club of Rome, whom you couldn’t be bothered to “deal with” and let us see what they had to say over this whole man made pollution, global warming tripe. Here is a quote from their report, it reads:

        “The common enemy of humanity is man. In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the IDEA that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would FIT THE BILL. All these dangers are caused by human intervention, and it is only through changed attitudes and behavior that they can be overcome. The real enemy then, is humanity itself.”

        So, from off the bat, we are being shown that the whole man made global warming theory is somebody’s idea, made up out of whole cloth. Where exactly have you been Tasche?

        Lets see some other quotes from some of these crazed climate fanatics. Professor Stephen Schneider, Stanford Professor of Climatology and a leading author of a bunch of IPCC reports said the following:

        “We need to get some broad based support, to capture the PUBLIC’S IMAGINATION…So we have to OFFER up SCARY SCENARIOS, make simplified, dramatic statements and make little mention of any doubts…Each of us has to decide what the right BALANCE is between BEING EFFECTIVE AND BEING HONEST.”

        I would hope by now that the cogs are beginning to turn in your head and you can at least begin see the possibility that you may have been taken for a ride on this whole global warming issue. I suspect probably not, so we will continue. You talked about the earth being it’s warmest since 1880. No, actually the earth has been cooling for at least the last 11 years, some say even 15:

        http://isthereglobalcooling.com/

        Lets place the real facts on the table eh bub. As for the so called “changes in weather” you have pointed out, these random spikes in weather changes have always happened throughout history, its is just today your climate nutters are scrambling for any information to bolster their BS which we have already been shown is a complete scam.

        Obviously, you cannot remember your biology lessons or you never indeed studied the topic as plant life thrives greatly under increased CO2, thus more fruits and vegetables are produced and more oxygen is converted from CO2 and released into the atmosphere. That is so simple, I’m surprised that you cannot figure this out Climate Tasche. There is no danger from increased amounts of CO2 being released into the atmosphere. Remember the Club of Rome quote, it is just an IDEA. By the way, the increase in temperature FIRST is followed by the increase in carbon, not the reverse.

        Then you talked about receding ice caps, no actually scientists are baffled by the thickening of the ice caps. Are you so gullible? Remember the “scary scenarios” quote? They show you a melting ice cap in the summer and lead you to conclude that this is the case all year round, utter rubbish. Even NASA have acknowledged that sea levels are falling but still cannot accept the obvious conclusion thereafter:

        http://www.usatoday.com/news/science/cold-science/2002-01-18-wais-thicker.htm

        http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/08/24/nasa-notes-sea-level-is-falling-in-press-release-but-calls-it-a-pothole-on-road-to-higher-seas/

        Humans have little to no effect on the weather and the changes that occur, the whole man made global warming mantra is nonsense and a percentage of the zombie public such as yourself will parrot the propaganda without even looking into the real facts. Learn something Carbon Joe, learn something:

        So, the whole claim of man made global warming is bogus and you are a sucker for believing in it and in effect sealing your own death. You need to research Agenda 21 and you definitely need to google “ClimateGate” where the emails of these so called climate professors and researchers were leaked in which they admitted that warming was not occurring and that they had to “hide the decline”:

        http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100017393/climategate-the-final-nail-in-the-coffin-of-anthropogenic-global-warming/

        http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2012/0221/Climategate-sequel-Scientist-lies-to-get-Heartland-Institute-documents

        Learn something Tasche, Learn something.

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      • trees create very little oxygen incomparison to other plant life and marine planktonic algae witch produces over 50% of the planets oxygen.

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      • The point here is that CO2 is an essential part of life and not the menace gas the global warming/climate change propagandists are trying to make it out to be.

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  2. I can’t believe this report, what pile of CRAP! Ha! This is what someone else might say but I just wanted to kid a little, ha, ha, ha!

    Honestly now, you made a point that made me think of something I never thought of before. If our would is to become more plentiful and all known life are carbon based life forms then we need more carbon not less. Interestingly oil locked up underground that has been pumped up for human consumption and released into our atmosphere has exactly what a growing world needs.

    I personally believe that CO2 is a distraction from real concerns that we need to focus on for the future. We use much of our oil to manufacture products that are designed for the dump, putting the oil back into the ground for another 1000 years. All of this is done so that corporations can make as much money as possible.

    Another point that most people don’t know is that the cut in CO2 proposed by the IPCC would lead to a $45 trillion industry as this would be the cost to reduce CO2 to the proposed levels (if that is even possible). This whole thing is a scam, don’t believe a single lie told to you by morons with environmental concerns and focus on real issues that are being ignored like recycling.

    How about this for another point. Did you know that the only thing you need to change in your PC is the processing chip. Everything else would work perfectly fine but companies would not make as much money so they design each processor a different shape and size so that you can’t possibly do this.

    The government of the USA used to be of the people, by the people, and for the people. Today the government is of the corporations, by the corporations, and for the corporations!!! Keep the people overworked, underpaid, and distracted by crap like CO2 and you will have a people you can control!

    Don’t believe for one moment that CO2 is the cause of climate change. There are a lot of great reports out there that will tell you why CO2 reports on climate change are completely unscientific and cannot be trusted. Just type “Co2 does not cause climate change” into your search engine and you will be shocked at what you will find.

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    • I concur completely with your comment sir, it is a slam dunk case. People do not realise that they are signing their own death warrants by buying into this CO2 nonsense. Is there nothing that the sucker public will not buy into? I obviously was a man who was asleep to alot of these so called “concerns”(really being scams) at one stage, chiefly because the internet was not around during the main period in that time. However, now people do not have an excuse with the information readily available at the touch of a button.

      Indeed, I am very familiar with these so called “computer models” that are purposely built to churn out the bogus scary scenarios they require to push this carbon rubbish forward, it is all lies, lies, lies and more lies and I will have no part of it. I personally will be making great efforts to INCREASE my “carbon footprint” and get as much CO2 into the atmosphere as possible. However, as predicted now, the sheeple in the future will simply roll along with this bunkham right into their own slaughter.

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  3. You sir, are an idiot. You really are. Furz is right. We do NOT need an increase in co2…I have 2 friends who have both published books on the effects of co2. One is a scientist, one is a Buddhist. I know who I will believe. It’s You who needs to learn something.

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    • You are a buffoon woman, only an incompetent dunce would still attempt to uphold a theory which as been proven to be utter rubbish from a quote from the very people who dreamed up this whole pie in the sky nonsense to begin with. This is why I started off with the quote from the Club Of Rome’s report first. Anything after this is simply bonus evidence.

      I have always had my doubts about man made global warming, I always knew in my heart that it was a load of crud but when Climategate came along, this confirmed what I suspected to be true 100 fold, not only Climategate but the real data and the real science that has also been brought forward by Lord Christopher Monckton.

      Have you even bothered to investigate Climategate woman? Are you even aware of the emails that were leaked exposing the fact that the earth has been cooling for the last 16 years and that this needed to be hidden?

      You chicken neck global warming proponents are all like cockcroaches and run into your corners defecating and urinating on yourselves in dark corners when Lord Monckton starts firing shots and bringing forward the real information. You are out of your league here, Climategate stopped dead the this global warming farse in its tracks.

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  4. Furz tache never once said that plants don’t thrive under increased co2. Idiot. What he said is that we don’t need it, crops and plants have grown perfectly without added co2. If we were meant to have huge levels of co2 then we would have already had it. Adding more is upsetting the balance of nature and destroying the planet. If everyone was like you then we would all be gazing up into smog layered skies wearing gas masks leaving our car engines on overnight. You need to open your eyes.

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    • Here you are again woman, making foolish statements without the appropriate knowledge of history. Today the planet is currently CO2 deficient. If you had bothered to do any sort of creditable research, you would have discovered that this planet has been exposed to much more higher levels of CO2 in the past, so you have already had higher levels and nothing dramatic happened.

      So this business about upsetting the balance is a dead duck before you have even set sail. Do some proper research before you come on here with your empty rants and insults. Disrespectful harridan, you’ll get buried everytime.

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  5. Don’t call me woman like my gender makes a difference you arrogant bastard. As I said I know 2 authors who publish books on co2 emissions, one is a scientist and one is a Buddhist, why should I believe you, an ignorant jerk, over 2 trusted friends who know enough on it to have their books published and become successfully. I won’t waste any more time on you, I can see your idiocy will never be cured because you are too much of an arrogant pig to see anything but your own delusions. Seeing you call me a bafoon makes me laugh… It is so ironic.
    I would say I look forward to the day you are proofed wrong just so you can crawl into a dark corner after realising what an idiot you are. But no, I dread the day you are proved wrong. You are in denial.

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    • a) On the point you are making about plants thriving on increased CO2 levels, yes you are right. And yes I did study biology but you’re clearly too arrogant to understand the point I’m making. WE don’t need increased CO2. Yes plants will thrive but where are the plants you speak of? Last time that CO2 levels were greatly elevated were during prehistoric (the Jurassic Period is one example) periods, when plant life literally covered the Earth and grew to enormous heights because of the increased CO2. However a massive meteorite changed all that and caused the Ice age, burying all that carbon – which is why we have fossil fuels today. We today DON’T have a massive abundance of plant life to swallow up excess CO2. As I pointed out the Amazon rainforest (which produces a large part of the worlds O2) is being cut down at alarming rates [http://www.mongabay.com/brazil-state_deforestation.html]. Like I said mankind has been able to produce sufficient crops at lower CO2 concentrations than currently exist.

      b) In your original propaganda message you posted you were taking about O2 as if it’s in a great shortage and we’re being taxed on it. In case you don’t know the current concentration is actually 21% of the total gases in the atmosphere – when we inhale this our lungs actually only absorb 4% of this. So like I said – we’re not running out any time soon. Also you mention that increasing CO2 is beneficial – I’m sure you’re aware that elevated CO2 is actually toxic – just thought I’d throw that in there in case you’re not aware of the science behind it.

      c) you quote people’s opinions without any clear evidence of any of your points. Just because some scientists may have fraudulently altered evidence or put across propaganda – doesn’t change the facts that climate change is happening. And also that global temperatures ARE rising. You posted a link contrary to the fact to a site without any clear evidence of such. As I’ve pointed out global temperatures ON AVERAGE are rising [http://co2now.org/ – here’s the link again just in case you didn’t read it the first time] (just in case you don’t understand what that means, it means summing up the temperatures across the year and dividing it by number of days – NOT taking one day and then saying OH IT’S COLDER TODAY THAN 16 YEARS AGO SO THEREFORE TEMPERATURES ARE DECREASING – as it was on the “scientific evidence” you quoted.

      d) in case you weren’t aware of the science behind WHY increased CO2 causes increasing temperature and weren’t educated on such subjects – CO2 is a denser gas than the majority of the gases that make up our air – Nitrogen and Oxygen. This means that on a molecular level they are closer together. As the concentration in the atmosphere increases – it forms a smog – now what this does – like it does on Venus – is it allows light in – but reflects the heat in the form of infra-red (that’s part of the Electro-Magnetic spectrum below that of light) – reflecting the heat back in rather than allowing it to escape, rather like what happens in a greenhouse – hence greenhouse gases.

      e) and this is my final point – It’s YOU that needs to do some credible research. Don’t insult those who are more informed that you or belittle them based on their gender. Points like that show you to be the person you truly are. A misguided and sick piece of work. Gender has no bearing on intelligence – but then if you were intelligent enough to understand that you wouldn’t have written this blog in the first place. Good day sir

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      • You have just plunged yourself into a hollow rant of absolutely no value. I first took you to the Club of Rome quote because I had to show you from the off that this global warming theory was an idea thought up as a mechanism to unite the world. Yet, you are still trying to defend a made up theory. I hope you realise that since the theory of man made global warming is bogus, ANY AND ALL following evidence is concluded in like manner.

        Then I took you to Climategate, the leaked emails from the professors and researchers in the University of East Anglia in England, one of the if not the most involved research center into this global warming farce. Yet you have also ignored Climategate. You cannot be helped any further, you refuse to accept the possibility that somebody may have taken you for a ride on this man made global warming issue. You have been conned, duped, bamboozled, whatever you want to call it. Call it a day, stop relying on the climate models which are not based upon the real facts but just based upon themselves.

        Here is another quote from Professor Chris Folland at Hadley Center for Climate Prediction and Research. It reads:

        “THE DATA DOESN’T MATTER. We’re NOT basing our recommendations on the data. We’re basing them on the CLIMATE MODELS”.

        Lets have another quote from Dr David Frame, a climate modeler at Oxford University. It reads:

        “The models are CONVENIENT FICTIONS that provide something very useful”.

        I will end with another quote from Emeritus Professor Daniel Botkin. It reads:

        “The only way to get our society to truly change is to FRIGHTEN PEOPLE WITH THE POSSIBILITY OF A CATASTROPHE”.

        I wish you all the best and this would be better achieved by not following somebody else’s fanatical crazy ideas and calling out the real evidence regardless of whether you are right or wrong.

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    • Your friends have simply regurgitated the propaganda that has been passed down to them and placed it in book form. Like you buddy Tasche, you also have a serious problem critically analysing data that is presented to you that does not concur with your findings. Firstly, the Club of Rome quote from their own records and then Climategate which I know you haven’t bothered looking into.

      Then you talked about me being proven wrong. All the quotes that I have listed from your global warming proponents(yes, your boys on your side) plus the Climategate scandal, in these I have already been vindicated and proven right. On the contrary, you have already been proven wrong several times over but you simply refuse to accept what is written in clear black and white. Your issue of acceptance is your issue, not mine.

      There is no denial here, there is an agenda afoot and you would be wise to find out what Agenda 21 is about before you come running up in here with your back yard limited knowledge on a subject. I bet that you haven’t even heard of Agenda 21 before but yet I’m wrong about global warming?? If you have noticed, they do not call it global warming so much anymore, now its “climate change”. Well, the climate changes so what? Its because the real data does not show any warming, so your climate boys were forced to change the description to their nonsense.

      You young people have been brainwashed hardcore with this nonsense, you cannot even use your own faculties and think and reason for yourselves anymore, the teachers and the professors teach you how and what to think and what to avoid. That is called INDOCTRINATION Horsman. Regardless of your view on any topic, you should be shown ALL sides in order to get a fair and balanced view on a topic.

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  6. Hollow rant? I’m sorry have you actually read my points and the SCIENCE behind it?

    Right ok. Lets put aside the hearsay and conspiracy theories. Your whole original

    argument is based around the fact that if we stop pumping CO2 into the atmosphere we’ll

    run out of oxygen and DIE. That we’re “signing our own death warrants” to use YOUR

    words. Let me point you again to the fact that the atmosphere comprises of 78% nitrogen

    and 21% oxygen and that CO2 currently is below 400ppm (in case you aren’t aware let me

    point out AGAIN that means parts per MILLION – ie out of 1 million molecules of gas in

    the atmosphere less than 400 of that is CO2. Oh noes. We’ll run out of oxygen and

    we’ll all die if we dare reduce CO2.

    [http://www.rcn27.dial.pipex.com/cloudsrus/atmosphere.html]

    I’ll refer you again to the point you made about the globe coping perfectly well with

    elevated levels of CO2. In the Jurassic Period. Where the globe was covered in a

    tropical climate, with no polar ice caps. And why? Because of the atmosphere containing

    a vastly elevated level of CO2 and other greenhouse gases, preserving such

    temperatures.

    I’m perfectly aware of what Climategate was and certainly don’t need to have it pointed

    out to me – not everyone in this world is as uneducated as you. Just because some of

    the evidence was exaggerated and yes some people tried to scare the world to take

    action – IT DOESN’T mean the situation isn’t real and DOESN’T mean that climate change

    on the whole isn’t happening. Again I refer to the statistics involving increasing CO2

    levels and INCREASING AVERAGE global temperatures. These figures AREN’T cooked up and

    are SCIENTIFICALLY VERIFIED, as well as the increases in dramatic weather conditions,

    including the extra cold winters you refer to – which are a result of CLIMATE CHANGE.

    Have you even looked into El Nino and how the slowing of the Gulf stream affects

    weather conditions? And do you honestly think that the increases in such weather

    conditions have just been imagined? Yes a link doesn’t imply cause – but once again

    just look at the SCIENCE as to how increasing certain gases affects Electro-Magnetic

    radiation and causes the greenhouse effect rather than repeating opinions and

    propaganda.

    You seem to be the sort of person that clearly gets all their information from

    tabloids: your argument is based around hearsay and is a complete fallacy. YOU are

    clearly ignoring all the scientific evidence because it doesn’t support YOUR

    “argument”, which I’ve pointed out is clearly invalid; look again at the first

    paragraph and read it until you understand. The only conspiracy that exists is the one

    fossil fuel industries want idiots like you to believe for the sole reason of

    preserving and increasing their BALANCE SHEETS. Wake up and smell the coffee and stop

    being so deluded. And make some points of SCIENTIFIC MERIT if you want to continue

    this, otherwise don’t waste my valuable time, or others for that matter with your

    bullshit.

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    • Back to the Club of Rome quote from their report once again because it seems that there is a blockage or a locked cog in your cranium somewhere which needs releasing. Once again it reads:

      “The common enemy of humanity is man. In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the IDEA that pollution, THE THREAT OF GLOBAL WARMING, water shortages, famine and the like would FIT THE BILL. All these dangers are caused by human intervention, and it is only through changed attitudes and behavior that they can be overcome. The real enemy then, is humanity itself.”

      If you cannot read what is plainly in front of you then that is your business. Agenda 21 is no conspiracy theory, you need to investigate it further before you sacrifice yourself to the carbon cow. Remember that quote I posted about the climate models being “convenient fictions”, oh look, here is more confirmation:

      http://notrickszone.com/2012/04/17/max-planck-institute-director-admits-physical-causes-unclear-models-inconsistent-with-observations/

      Here is also another good article which goes into the “scary scenarios” and the tripe that your boys put together, normally before a big climate meeting in order to continue receiving their grants and funding:

      http://joannenova.com.au/2011/10/map-the-climate-change-scare-machine-the-perpetual-self-feeding-cycle-of-alarm/

      Since you wish to be a glutton for punishment, anything that comes down the pike in relation to this carbon nonsense you deserve as a recompense for your willingness to remain ignorant on purpose. Enjoy your carbon taxes and being sucked dry like a chump.

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  7. Hollow rant? I’m sorry have you actually read my points and the SCIENCE behind it? Right ok. Lets put aside the hearsay and conspiracy theories. Your whole original argument is based around the fact that if we stop pumping CO2 into the atmosphere we’ll run out of oxygen and DIE. That we’re “signing our own death warrants” to use YOUR words. Let me point you again to the fact that the atmosphere comprises of 78% nitrogen and 21% oxygen and that CO2 currently is below 400ppm (in case you aren’t aware let me point out AGAIN that means parts per MILLION – ie out of 1 million molecules of gas in the atmosphere less than 400 of that is CO2. Oh noes. We’ll run out of oxygen and we’ll all die if we dare reduce CO2.
    [http://www.rcn27.dial.pipex.com/cloudsrus/atmosphere.html]

    I’ll refer you again to the point you made about the globe coping perfectly well with elevated levels of CO2. In the Jurassic Period. Where the globe was covered in a tropical climate, with no polar ice caps. And why? Because of the atmosphere containing a vastly elevated level of CO2 and other greenhouse gases, preserving such
    temperatures.

    I’m perfectly aware of what Climategate was and certainly don’t need to have it pointed out to me – not everyone in this world is as uneducated as you. Just because some evidence was exaggerated and yes some people tried to scare the world to take action – IT DOESN’T mean the situation isn’t real and DOESN’T mean that climate change on the whole isn’t happening. Again I refer to the statistics involving increasing CO2 levels and INCREASING AVERAGE global temperatures. These figures AREN’T cooked up and are SCIENTIFICALLY VERIFIED, as well as the increases in dramatic weather conditions, including the extra cold winters you refer to – which are a result of CLIMATE CHANGE. Have you even looked into El Nino and how the slowing of the Gulf stream affects
    weather conditions? And do you honestly think that the increases in such weather conditions have just been imagined? Yes a link doesn’t imply cause – but once again just look at the SCIENCE as to how increasing certain gases affects Electro-Magnetic radiation and causes the greenhouse effect rather than repeating opinions and
    propaganda.

    You seem to be the sort of person that clearly gets all their information from tabloids: your argument is based around hearsay and is a complete fallacy. YOU are clearly ignoring all the scientific evidence because it doesn’t support YOUR “argument”, which I’ve pointed out is clearly invalid; look again at the first paragraph and read it until you understand exactly how it contradicts and disproves your point. The only conspiracy that exists is the one fossil fuel industries want idiots like you to believe for the sole reason of
    preserving and increasing their BALANCE SHEETS. Wake up and smell the coffee and stop being so deluded. And make some points of SCIENTIFIC MERIT if you want to continue this, otherwise don’t waste my valuable time, or others for that matter with your bulls**t.

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    • Scientific? ahhahaha Wow. They really have this population driven to stupidity. We are carbon beings. You can’t have a greenhouse effect with Co2….it’s too heavy. It could never sit above the atmosphere and cause greenhouse effect. You’ve all been lied to on just about every “science”. Sad but true. Did you know that the Joules Thompson Law says that a gas released in a vacuum does NO work. This means rockets will NOT work in space, no matter how many so called rockets you think have gone into space. Our population has been driven down to child level ignorance and massive unwarranted arrogance. Do you think 1/13″ alum sheets heated to a T3 spec will slice 14″ box columns like grannies cookie cutter. Tower two on 911….there was no impact. ahahhaah You didn’t find that odd? There was no collision. No impact….no denting when a bird will knock a hole 1′ by 5′ into the wings and or fuselage…..what more would a 14″ carbon structural steel box column inflict? hahahha You guys are really lost. I bet you think Einstein was something other than a manufactured “genius”. hahahahha Tesla said he and his theory were but a beggar dressed in purple whom common folk take for a king. But I’m sure Bill Nye the Marxist Guy could sell you any and everything. hahhaha Google: Space Shuttle Challenger Astronauts still alive and working as Professors in major Universities. Go see. Humor me. ahahhahah You have no idea just how badly you’ve been lied to. Alum planes don’t slice steel, they crash against them. I feel sad for you believing that co2 is a problem with earths atmosphere. More co2 would just mean healthier plant and all biological entities. Now go read your mainstream media news for children. Your nation and your mind has been stolen by two bit con men and women. Good luck, friend. Nothing personal.

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  8. Oh wow. This is the more stupidly written piece of tripe i’ve ever seen. I am actually someone who has studied Chemistry, Biology and Physics and currently work within Environmental Science sector and you have got sooooo many facts wrong. First of all, its not global warming. Its global CLIMATE CHANGE. The climate is changing, and this causes much of the earth ecosystems to be detrimentally effected as they are not used to this change.

    You show a clear misunderstanding on how CO2 works. Yes, we need CO2 in the air. The incorrectly named Green house effect keeps the Earth at a comfortable temperature. Its incorrectly named because it doesn’t work like a greenhouse. What happens is that solar radiation (UV, visible light etc) reachs the Earth and much of this is absorbed into the ground. This, when absorbed, is re-emitted from the Earth as infra-red (hence why the pavement feels warm when its sunny). This infra-red radiation would usually escape Earth’s atmosphere. Therefore the Earth would be very cold, BUT carbon dioxide in the troposphere (the lowest level of the atmosphere) absorbs infra-red. This radiation, when absorbed, energises the molecules of CO2 and traps the heat within the Earths atmosphere. Therefore, the temperature increases. Now at the normal levels, around 340ppm, this keeps the Earth the right temperature, on average. If this increases, which is has been, and its reaching 400+ppm, more and more of the infra-red radiation is absorbed and therefore more heat is trapped. If you believe this is a good thing for Earth, how come Venus, which has very high levels of carbon dioxide in its atmosphere, is currently around 900 C. This is because on Venus, this ‘greenhouse effect’ has gone off the scale.

    Now, you say that plants absorb all the CO2. Well, this is true, but there is only so much that they can absorb. You see, there are many other things plants need to photosynthesise (and therefore USE that CO2) such as water, nitrate, phosphate, sunlight, optimum temperature etc. If one of those things is in low supply, then it doesn’t matter how much of the others you have. It would be like giving you all the water you can drink and all the air you can breathe, but giving you no food. You wouldn’t thrive. Your diagram of the Carbon cycle also is extremely simple and something they would give to a 12 year old to learn from. They over simplify it so the child can understand it.

    See, it misses out the fact that much of CO2 is actually absorbed by water. Seawater hold a vast amount of CO2, dissolved in the water. There are many things dissolved in water, and where i won’t expect you to know how dissolving actually works (due to the lack of science in this post). You will know that from heating up water, you get bubbles of gas escaping. That is oxygen, when you boil some water, that water can no longer hold as much gas and it is released. Well, as climate change occurs, the sea’s become warmer. When warmed, even by a couple of degrees, that sea cannot hold onto as much CO2 as its already saturated with. Therefore, more CO2 is released. This causes further warming, and the sea becomes warmer, and therefore more CO2 is released. Its a downward spiral. Also, as the sea’s warm, phytoplankton (microscopic plants that cause the sea to be greeny blue) are detrimentally affected. This is because they prefer colder waters (this is why tropical seas are so clear) and many colonies die out. These phytoplankton account for HALF of the oxygen produced on Earth (more than the Amazon). These organisms have algal blooms that can be seen from space (google algal bloom to see the scale of these)

    Infact, if you change the natural balance of most things, it is detrimental to the planet. However good something may be, more doesn’t mean better. Water is good for you, you need it to survived, yet you can die if you drink too much (such as people on ecstasy). You really need to understand the science rather than gripping onto what a few conspiracy theorists say. Almost all of the scientists in the world agree with this, and its a shame that people will actually believe something so poorly written like this.

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    • You believed that you could come on here and make complex what I have explained in simple terms in order to make yourself appear to be some sort of authority on this matter. The evidence is in, climate change/global climate change is BS. I have the quote from the Club of Rome, the very think tank which concocted this global warming nonsense from the beginning, that is all I need.

      From here on in, all the so called “science” in relation to this theory is bollocks, you must understand this. So, you can explain how carbon works till the cows come home but the fact is you are doing this in support and to uphold a theory which is bogus. Please do not remain a sucker all of your life Albert.

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  9. You are such an idiot, furz and Albert explain to you exactly what is happening and exactly why it is happening, and all you can do is pout like a child and say “yeah well I have quotes!” your like a child who can’t believe that Santa isn’t real just because his mummy says he is. You can pout and quote as much as you like. You are clearly outsmarted.

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    • Still defiantly standing up for somebody else’s idea eh Sarah? Who are you to tell me what information I am permitted to and barred from bringing to the table? The only reason you don’t like me bringing out the quotes is because they are coming from your people, proponents of global warming who are openly admitting that the whole theory is simply made up and bogus to the core. That’s your problem. If you cannot take the heat, you know what to do.

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  10. Ahhh :,) l never said don’t quote, but you could at least try support your theory with scientific evidence ( and by scientific I don’t mean a school diagram) your so funny.

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    • But as always the question is can you handle the evidence? This was not a academic post on CO2, this is a basic platform from which people can launch off and do their own research. Here is Lord Christopher Monckton(the man global warming proponents love to hate). He will supply you with all the evidence you need. I challenge you to watch all 8 parts and still return to tell me that global warming is real. Again, are you really ready for the truth?:

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